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  I wrote this in Facebook in reply to a [[friend]] Din Robinson to whom [[Thusness]] wrote his "7 stages of [[experience]]" (originally 6) in 2006:
 
  I wrote this in Facebook in reply to a [[friend]] Din Robinson to whom [[Thusness]] wrote his "7 stages of [[experience]]" (originally 6) in 2006:
  
Din: "as soon as you take any [[action]] or any need for training, then you are perpetuating the [[myth]] of a "you" that [[exists]] in [[time]] and [[space]], not that there's any wrong with that!"
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Din: "as soon as you take any [[action]] or any need for {{Wiki|training}}, then you are perpetuating the [[myth]] of a "you" that [[exists]] in [[time]] and [[space]], not that there's any wrong with that!"
  
 
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"as long as you take any [[action]] to cure your {{Wiki|disease}}, such as [[seeing]] the doctor, then you are perpetuating the [[myth]] of a "you" that [[exists]] in [[time]] and [[space]]"
 
"as long as you take any [[action]] to cure your {{Wiki|disease}}, such as [[seeing]] the doctor, then you are perpetuating the [[myth]] of a "you" that [[exists]] in [[time]] and [[space]]"
  
No-self/Anatta is not about denying [[thinking]], [[action]], carrying [[water]] and chopping [[wood]]... and this is the key difference between genuine [[anatta]] [[insight]] from [[dualistic]] {{Wiki|conceptual}} [[understanding]]. The very notion that "[[action]]" and "[[intention]]" implies, or necessitates, an "actor", and therefore for non-action the {{Wiki|intentions}} and [[actions]] must also cease, is precisely using [[dualistic]] [[thinking]] to [[understanding]] [[anatta]]...
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[[No-self]]/[[Anatta]] is not about denying [[thinking]], [[action]], carrying [[water]] and chopping [[wood]]... and this is the key difference between genuine [[anatta]] [[insight]] from [[dualistic]] {{Wiki|conceptual}} [[understanding]]. The very notion that "[[action]]" and "[[intention]]" implies, or necessitates, an "actor", and therefore for non-action the {{Wiki|intentions}} and [[actions]] must also cease, is precisely using [[dualistic]] [[thinking]] to [[understanding]] [[anatta]]...
  
 
[[Action]] never required a [[self]] (in fact there never was a [[self]] or a doer apart from [[action]] to begin with: only a [[delusion]] of one), and [[action]] does not need to perpetuate the [[myth]] of a [[self]]. The [[myth]] of a [[self]] is not exactly dependent on [[action]] or lack thereof. Sure, [[action]] that arises out of the [[dualistic]] [[sense]] of actor/act where there is an "I" trying to modify or achieve "that" is a [[form]] of [[action]] produced by [[ignorance]]. But not all [[actions]] necessarily arise out of an underlying [[sense]] of [[duality]]. If all [[actions]] arise out of a [[sense]] of [[duality]], then after [[awakening]] one will just wither and [[die]] as he cannot even feed himself.
 
[[Action]] never required a [[self]] (in fact there never was a [[self]] or a doer apart from [[action]] to begin with: only a [[delusion]] of one), and [[action]] does not need to perpetuate the [[myth]] of a [[self]]. The [[myth]] of a [[self]] is not exactly dependent on [[action]] or lack thereof. Sure, [[action]] that arises out of the [[dualistic]] [[sense]] of actor/act where there is an "I" trying to modify or achieve "that" is a [[form]] of [[action]] produced by [[ignorance]]. But not all [[actions]] necessarily arise out of an underlying [[sense]] of [[duality]]. If all [[actions]] arise out of a [[sense]] of [[duality]], then after [[awakening]] one will just wither and [[die]] as he cannot even feed himself.
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When one is operating with a [[dualistic]] way of [[understanding]], one [[thinks]] that [[action]] implies a [[self]] that is doing an act, and one [[thinks]] that non-action implies that the [[self]] ends with the [[action]]. But genuine [[insight]] into non-action is simply the [[realization]] that never was there a real actor behind [[action]], so there is always in acting just that [[action]] - whole being is only the total {{Wiki|exertion}} of [[action]], and this is always already the case but not [[realized]]. That is true non-action - there is no [[subject]] (actor) performing an act ([[object]]).
 
When one is operating with a [[dualistic]] way of [[understanding]], one [[thinks]] that [[action]] implies a [[self]] that is doing an act, and one [[thinks]] that non-action implies that the [[self]] ends with the [[action]]. But genuine [[insight]] into non-action is simply the [[realization]] that never was there a real actor behind [[action]], so there is always in acting just that [[action]] - whole being is only the total {{Wiki|exertion}} of [[action]], and this is always already the case but not [[realized]]. That is true non-action - there is no [[subject]] (actor) performing an act ([[object]]).
  
Futhermore: The [[myth]] of a [[self]] is not dependent on practice and lack thereof. (Oh but, 'right practice' and 'contemplation' does a lot to deconstruct that [[myth]]!) The [[myth]] of a [[self]] is however dependent on [[ignorance]], and only [[wisdom]] ends that [[ignorance]], just like turning on the lights lead to the natural [[cessation]] of irrational {{Wiki|fear}} and [[thinking]] of monster in the dark room by a child.
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Futhermore: The [[myth]] of a [[self]] is not dependent on practice and lack thereof. (Oh but, '[[right practice]]' and 'contemplation' does a lot to deconstruct that [[myth]]!) The [[myth]] of a [[self]] is however dependent on [[ignorance]], and only [[wisdom]] ends that [[ignorance]], just like turning on the lights lead to the natural [[cessation]] of irrational {{Wiki|fear}} and [[thinking]] of monster in the dark room by a child.
  
There is always only [[action]] without a doer. No doer does not deny [[action]], it denies agency, and [[realization]] of such leads to the direct, immediate, [[experience]] of total exertion/total [[action]] where doer/deed is refined till none in one whole {{Wiki|movement}}. There is nothing passive about non-action. Non-action is simply [[action]] without self/Self. All [[actions]] performed without [[sense]] of self/Self is in fact non-action. Without the subjective pole (actor), the [[objective]] pole in contrast to the [[subject]] (being acted upon) is also automatically negated. Yet clearly, the total {{Wiki|exertion}} - [[pure]] [[action]]... goes on.
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There is always only [[action]] without a doer. No doer does not deny [[action]], it denies agency, and [[realization]] of such leads to the direct, immediate, [[experience]] of total exertion/total [[action]] where doer/deed is refined till none in one whole {{Wiki|movement}}. There is nothing passive about non-action. Non-action is simply [[action]] without self/Self. All [[actions]] performed without [[sense]] of self/Self is in fact non-action. Without the [[subjective]] pole (actor), the [[objective]] pole in contrast to the [[subject]] (being acted upon) is also automatically negated. Yet clearly, the total {{Wiki|exertion}} - [[pure]] [[action]]... goes on.
  
[[Dogen]] calls this practice-enlightenment. You do not practice For [[enlightenment]] (as some {{Wiki|future}} goal separated from you). Your very practice of actualizing [[insight]] of [[anatta]] itself is practice-enlightenment. Sitting down is practice is actualization is [[Buddha-nature]] is [[enlightenment]]. Shitting too can be practice/actualization and that very act is [[Buddha-nature]] is [[enlightenment]]. Your very practice/actualization/act of just sitting, hearing the [[wind]] blowing, [[sight]] of scenery, walking on the street, chop [[wood]] carry [[water]] (without any [[delusion]] of self/Self) - that itself is practice-actualization-enlightenment, that is the total {{Wiki|exertion}} where entire being is just entire [[sound]], entire scenery, entire [[action]].. This is [[non-dual]] practice and [[non-dual]] [[action]].
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[[Dogen]] calls this practice-[[enlightenment]]. You do not practice For [[enlightenment]] (as some {{Wiki|future}} goal separated from you). Your very practice of actualizing [[insight]] of [[anatta]] itself is practice-enlightenment. Sitting down is practice is actualization is [[Buddha-nature]] is [[enlightenment]]. Shitting too can be practice/actualization and that very act is [[Buddha-nature]] is [[enlightenment]]. Your very practice/actualization/act of just sitting, hearing the [[wind]] blowing, [[sight]] of scenery, walking on the street, chop [[wood]] carry [[water]] (without any [[delusion]] of self/Self) - that itself is practice-actualization-enlightenment, that is the total {{Wiki|exertion}} where entire being is just entire [[sound]], entire scenery, entire [[action]].. This is [[non-dual]] practice and [[non-dual]] [[action]].
 
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 I wrote this in Facebook in reply to a friend Din Robinson to whom Thusness wrote his "7 stages of experience" (originally 6) in 2006:

Din: "as soon as you take any action or any need for training, then you are perpetuating the myth of a "you" that exists in time and space, not that there's any wrong with that!"

My reply:

This is not true. This is as ridiculous as saying "as long as you take any action to keep fit, such as going to gym, then you are perpetuating the myth of a "you" that exists in time and space"

or

"as long as you take any action to pass your exams, such as studying hard, then you are perpetuating the myth of a "you" that exists in time and space"

or

"as long as you take any action to survive, such as eating and sleeping, then you are perpetuating the myth of a "you" that exists in time and space"

or

"as long as you take any action to cure your disease, such as seeing the doctor, then you are perpetuating the myth of a "you" that exists in time and space"

No-self/Anatta is not about denying thinking, action, carrying water and chopping wood... and this is the key difference between genuine anatta insight from dualistic conceptual understanding. The very notion that "action" and "intention" implies, or necessitates, an "actor", and therefore for non-action the intentions and actions must also cease, is precisely using dualistic thinking to understanding anatta...

Action never required a self (in fact there never was a self or a doer apart from action to begin with: only a delusion of one), and action does not need to perpetuate the myth of a self. The myth of a self is not exactly dependent on action or lack thereof. Sure, action that arises out of the dualistic sense of actor/act where there is an "I" trying to modify or achieve "that" is a form of action produced by ignorance. But not all actions necessarily arise out of an underlying sense of duality. If all actions arise out of a sense of duality, then after awakening one will just wither and die as he cannot even feed himself.

When one is operating with a dualistic way of understanding, one thinks that action implies a self that is doing an act, and one thinks that non-action implies that the self ends with the action. But genuine insight into non-action is simply the realization that never was there a real actor behind action, so there is always in acting just that action - whole being is only the total exertion of action, and this is always already the case but not realized. That is true non-action - there is no subject (actor) performing an act (object).

Futhermore: The myth of a self is not dependent on practice and lack thereof. (Oh but, 'right practice' and 'contemplation' does a lot to deconstruct that myth!) The myth of a self is however dependent on ignorance, and only wisdom ends that ignorance, just like turning on the lights lead to the natural cessation of irrational fear and thinking of monster in the dark room by a child.

There is always only action without a doer. No doer does not deny action, it denies agency, and realization of such leads to the direct, immediate, experience of total exertion/total action where doer/deed is refined till none in one whole movement. There is nothing passive about non-action. Non-action is simply action without self/Self. All actions performed without sense of self/Self is in fact non-action. Without the subjective pole (actor), the objective pole in contrast to the subject (being acted upon) is also automatically negated. Yet clearly, the total exertion - pure action... goes on.

Dogen calls this practice-enlightenment. You do not practice For enlightenment (as some future goal separated from you). Your very practice of actualizing insight of anatta itself is practice-enlightenment. Sitting down is practice is actualization is Buddha-nature is enlightenment. Shitting too can be practice/actualization and that very act is Buddha-nature is enlightenment. Your very practice/actualization/act of just sitting, hearing the wind blowing, sight of scenery, walking on the street, chop wood carry water (without any delusion of self/Self) - that itself is practice-actualization-enlightenment, that is the total exertion where entire being is just entire sound, entire scenery, entire action.. This is non-dual practice and non-dual action.

Source

awakeningtoreality.blogspot.com.au