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Once the [[Blessed One]] dwelled at [[Rajagaha]] in the Bamboo-Grove [[Monastery]], at the Squirrel's Feeding Place. There a wandering [[ascetic]], Moliya Sivaka by [[name]], called on the [[Blessed One]], and after an exchange of courteous and friendly words, sat down at one side. Thus seated, he said:
  
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"There are, revered [[Gotama]], some [[ascetics]] and [[brahmans]] who have this [[doctrine]] and [[view]]: 'Whatever a [[person]] [[experiences]], be it [[pleasure]], [[pain]] or neither-pain-nor-pleasure, all that is [[caused]] by previous [[action]].' Now, what does the revered [[Gotama]] say about this?"
  
Once the Blessed One dwelled at Rajagaha in the Bamboo-Grove Monastery, at the Squirrel's Feeding Place. There a wandering ascetic, Moliya Sivaka by name, called on the Blessed One, and after an exchange of courteous and friendly words, sat down at one side. Thus seated, he said:
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"Produced by (disorders of the) {{Wiki|bile}}, there arise, Sivaka, certain kinds of [[feelings]]. That this happens, can be known by oneself; also in the [[world]] it is accepted as true. Produced by (disorders of the) {{Wiki|phlegm}}... of [[wind]]... of (the three) combined... by change of climate... by adverse {{Wiki|behavior}}... by injuries... by the results of [[Kamma]] — (through all that), Sivaka, there arise certain kinds of [[feelings]]. That this happens can be known by oneself; also in the [[world]] it is accepted as true.
  
"There are, revered Gotama, some ascetics and brahmans who have this doctrine and view: 'Whatever a person experiences, be it pleasure, pain or neither-pain-nor-pleasure, all that is caused by previous action.' Now, what does the revered Gotama say about this?"
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"Now when these [[ascetics]] and [[brahmans]] have such a [[doctrine]] and [[view]] that 'whatever a [[person]] [[experiences]], be it [[pleasure]], [[pain]] or neither-pain-nor-pleasure, all that is [[caused]] by previous [[action]],' then they go beyond what they know by themselves and what is accepted as true by the [[world]]. Therefore, I say that this is wrong on the part of these [[ascetics]] and [[brahmans]]."
  
"Produced by (disorders of the) bile, there arise, Sivaka, certain kinds of feelings. That this happens, can be known by oneself; also in the world it is accepted as true. Produced by (disorders of the) phlegm... of wind... of (the three) combined... by change of climate... by adverse behavior... by injuries... by the results of Kamma — (through all that), Sivaka, there arise certain kinds of feelings. That this happens can be known by oneself; also in the world it is accepted as true.
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When this was spoken, Moliya Sivaka, the wandering [[ascetic]], said: "It is {{Wiki|excellent}}, revered [[Gotama]], it is {{Wiki|excellent}} indeed!...May the revered [[Gotama]] regard me as a lay follower who, from today, has taken [[refuge]] in him as long as [[life]] lasts."
 
 
"Now when these ascetics and brahmans have such a doctrine and view that 'whatever a person experiences, be it pleasure, pain or neither-pain-nor-pleasure, all that is caused by previous action,' then they go beyond what they know by themselves and what is accepted as true by the world. Therefore, I say that this is wrong on the part of these ascetics and brahmans."
 
 
 
When this was spoken, Moliya Sivaka, the wandering ascetic, said: "It is excellent, revered Gotama, it is excellent indeed!...May the revered Gotama regard me as a lay follower who, from today, has taken refuge in him as long as life lasts."
 
  
  

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To Sivaka
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Nyanaponika Thera



Once the Blessed One dwelled at Rajagaha in the Bamboo-Grove Monastery, at the Squirrel's Feeding Place. There a wandering ascetic, Moliya Sivaka by name, called on the Blessed One, and after an exchange of courteous and friendly words, sat down at one side. Thus seated, he said:

"There are, revered Gotama, some ascetics and brahmans who have this doctrine and view: 'Whatever a person experiences, be it pleasure, pain or neither-pain-nor-pleasure, all that is caused by previous action.' Now, what does the revered Gotama say about this?"

"Produced by (disorders of the) bile, there arise, Sivaka, certain kinds of feelings. That this happens, can be known by oneself; also in the world it is accepted as true. Produced by (disorders of the) phlegm... of wind... of (the three) combined... by change of climate... by adverse behavior... by injuries... by the results of Kamma — (through all that), Sivaka, there arise certain kinds of feelings. That this happens can be known by oneself; also in the world it is accepted as true.

"Now when these ascetics and brahmans have such a doctrine and view that 'whatever a person experiences, be it pleasure, pain or neither-pain-nor-pleasure, all that is caused by previous action,' then they go beyond what they know by themselves and what is accepted as true by the world. Therefore, I say that this is wrong on the part of these ascetics and brahmans."

When this was spoken, Moliya Sivaka, the wandering ascetic, said: "It is excellent, revered Gotama, it is excellent indeed!...May the revered Gotama regard me as a lay follower who, from today, has taken refuge in him as long as life lasts."


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