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On Higher Dhamma III
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On Higher [[Dhamma]] III
  
 
===Speculation about the Future===
 
===Speculation about the Future===
  
[74] There are shaman and Brahmans, Beggars, who speculate about the future, whose speculations are about the future, and who on forty-four grounds put forward various assertions regarding it.
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[74] There are {{Wiki|shaman}} and [[Brahmans]], Beggars, who speculate about the {{Wiki|future}}, whose speculations are about the {{Wiki|future}}, and who on forty-four grounds put forward various assertions regarding it.
  
 
What forty-four grounds?
 
What forty-four grounds?
  
====Believers in Conscious Existence after Death====
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====Believers in [[Conscious]] [[Existence]] after [[Death]]====
  
[75] There are, Beggars, some shaman and Brahmans who are Believers in a Conscious Existence after Death, and who, on sixteen grounds, state that the Self is conscious after death.
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[75] There are, Beggars, some {{Wiki|shaman}} and [[Brahmans]] who are Believers in a [[Conscious]] [[Existence]] after [[Death]], and who, on sixteen grounds, [[state]] that the [[Self]] is [[conscious]] after [[death]].
  
 
What sixteen grounds?
 
What sixteen grounds?
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They say:
 
They say:
  
The Self has perception after Death, is whole and has material shape.<br/>
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The [[Self]] has [[perception]] after [[Death]], is whole and has material shape.<br/>
The Self has perception after Death, is whole and has no material shape.<br/>
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The [[Self]] has [[perception]] after [[Death]], is whole and has no material shape.<br/>
The Self has perception after Death, is whole and both has and has not got material shape.<br/>
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The [[Self]] has [[perception]] after [[Death]], is whole and both has and has not got material shape.<br/>
The Self has perception after Death, is whole and neither has nor has not got material shape.<br/>
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The [[Self]] has [[perception]] after [[Death]], is whole and neither has nor has not got material shape.<br/>
 
<br/>
 
<br/>
The Self has perception after Death, is whole and has an end.<br/>
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The [[Self]] has [[perception]] after [[Death]], is whole and has an end.<br/>
The Self has perception after Death, is whole and has no end.<br/>
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The [[Self]] has [[perception]] after [[Death]], is whole and has no end.<br/>
The Self has perception after Death, is whole and both has an end and has no end.<br/>
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The [[Self]] has [[perception]] after [[Death]], is whole and both has an end and has no end.<br/>
The Self has perception after Death, is whole and neither has an end nor has no end.<br/>
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The [[Self]] has [[perception]] after [[Death]], is whole and neither has an end nor has no end.<br/>
 
<br/>
 
<br/>
The self has perception after Death, is whole and has one mode of perception.<br/>
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The [[self]] has [[perception]] after [[Death]], is whole and has one mode of [[perception]].<br/>
The self has perception after Death, is whole and has diverse modes of perception.<br/>
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The [[self]] has [[perception]] after [[Death]], is whole and has diverse modes of [[perception]].<br/>
The self has perception after Death, is whole and has limited perception.<br/>
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The [[self]] has [[perception]] after [[Death]], is whole and has limited [[perception]].<br/>
The self has perception after Death, is whole and has unbounded perception.<br/>
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The [[self]] has [[perception]] after [[Death]], is whole and has unbounded [[perception]].<br/>
 
<br/>
 
<br/>
The self has perception after Death, is whole and is primarily happy.<br/>
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The [[self]] has [[perception]] after [[Death]], is whole and is primarily [[happy]].<br/>
The self has perception after Death, is whole and is primarily in pain.<br/>
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The [[self]] has [[perception]] after [[Death]], is whole and is primarily in [[pain]].<br/>
The self has perception after Death, is whole and is both happy and in pain.<br/>
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The [[self]] has [[perception]] after [[Death]], is whole and is both [[happy]] and in [[pain]].<br/>
The self has perception after Death, is whole and is neither happy nor in pain.<br/>
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The [[self]] has [[perception]] after [[Death]], is whole and is neither [[happy]] nor in [[pain]].<br/>
  
[76] These, beggars, are the shaman and Brahmans who are Believers in a Conscious Existence after Death, and who, on sixteen grounds state that the Self is conscious after death. Whatever shaman or Brahman, Beggars, are Believers in a Conscious Existence after Death, are such in one of these sixteen ways and no other.
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[76] These, beggars, are the {{Wiki|shaman}} and [[Brahmans]] who are Believers in a [[Conscious]] [[Existence]] after [[Death]], and who, on sixteen grounds [[state]] that the [[Self]] is [[conscious]] after [[death]]. Whatever {{Wiki|shaman}} or [[Brahman]], Beggars, are Believers in a [[Conscious]] [[Existence]] after [[Death]], are such in one of these sixteen ways and no other.
  
[77] But of these, Beggars, the Tathagata knows that arriving at such views, holding such views, believing such views, trusting such views will have such and such a consequence in terms of rebirth in the hereafter. This and much more the Tathagata is able to see, for he knows as it really is the coming to be and the passing away of sense experience, the satisfaction of sense experience and the way of escape from sense experience. And because he does not cling to what he sees he is objectively detached and he experiences for himself the peace of utter freedom.
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[77] But of these, Beggars, the [[Tathagata]] [[knows]] that arriving at such [[views]], holding such [[views]], believing such [[views]], trusting such [[views]] will have such and such a consequence in terms of [[rebirth]] in the hereafter. This and much more the [[Tathagata]] is able to see, for he [[knows]] as it really is the coming to be and the passing away of [[sense]] [[experience]], the [[satisfaction]] of [[sense]] [[experience]] and the way of escape from [[sense]] [[experience]]. And because he does not [[cling]] to what he sees he is objectively [[detached]] and he [[experiences]] for himself the [[peace]] of utter freedom.
  
These are advanced things, Beggars, matters that are deep, difficult to see, difficult to grasp, subtle, leading one who follows to tranquility and the sublime; things not to be arrived at by mere logic and reasoning, comprehensible only by the wise. These, Beggars are the things the Tathagata teaches, having seen them for himself. These are the things which should be spoken of by one when he speaks in praise of the Tathagata.
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These are advanced things, Beggars, matters that are deep, difficult to see, difficult to [[grasp]], {{Wiki|subtle}}, leading one who follows to [[tranquility]] and the [[sublime]]; things not to be arrived at by mere [[logic]] and {{Wiki|reasoning}}, comprehensible only by the [[wise]]. These, Beggars are the things the [[Tathagata]] teaches, having seen them for himself. These are the things which should be spoken of by one when he speaks in praise of the [[Tathagata]].
  
====Believers in an Unconscious Existence after Death====
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====Believers in an [[Unconscious]] [[Existence]] after [[Death]]====
  
[78] [3.1] There are, Beggars, some shaman and Brahmans who are Believers in an Unconscious Existence after Death, and who, on eight grounds, state that the Self is not conscious after death.
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[78] [3.1] There are, Beggars, some {{Wiki|shaman}} and [[Brahmans]] who are Believers in an [[Unconscious]] [[Existence]] after [[Death]], and who, on eight grounds, [[state]] that the [[Self]] is not [[conscious]] after [[death]].
  
 
What eight grounds?
 
What eight grounds?
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[79] They say:
 
[79] They say:
  
The Self has no perception after Death, is whole and has material shape.<br/>
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The [[Self]] has no [[perception]] after [[Death]], is whole and has material shape.<br/>
The Self has no perception after Death, is whole and has no material shape.<br/>
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The [[Self]] has no [[perception]] after [[Death]], is whole and has no material shape.<br/>
The Self has no perception after Death, is whole and both has and has not got material shape.<br/>
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The [[Self]] has no [[perception]] after [[Death]], is whole and both has and has not got material shape.<br/>
The Self, has no perception after Death, is whole and neither has nor has not got material shape.<br/>
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The [[Self]], has no [[perception]] after [[Death]], is whole and neither has nor has not got material shape.<br/>
The Self has no perception after Death, is whole and has an end.<br/>
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The [[Self]] has no [[perception]] after [[Death]], is whole and has an end.<br/>
The Self has no perception after Death, is whole and has no end.<br/>
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The [[Self]] has no [[perception]] after [[Death]], is whole and has no end.<br/>
The Self has no perception after Death, is whole and both has an end and has no end.<br/>
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The [[Self]] has no [[perception]] after [[Death]], is whole and both has an end and has no end.<br/>
The Self has no perception after Death, is whole and neither has an end nor has no end.<br/>
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The [[Self]] has no [[perception]] after [[Death]], is whole and neither has an end nor has no end.<br/>
  
[80] These, beggars, are the shaman and Brahmans who are Believers in an Unconscious Existence after Death, and who, on eight grounds state that the Self is unconscious after death. Whatever shaman or Brahman, Beggars, are Believers in an Unconscious Existence after Death, are such in one of these eight ways and no other.
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[80] These, beggars, are the {{Wiki|shaman}} and [[Brahmans]] who are Believers in an [[Unconscious]] [[Existence]] after [[Death]], and who, on eight grounds [[state]] that the [[Self]] is [[unconscious]] after [[death]]. Whatever {{Wiki|shaman}} or [[Brahman]], Beggars, are Believers in an [[Unconscious]] [[Existence]] after [[Death]], are such in one of these eight ways and no other.
  
[81] But of these, Beggars, the Tathagata knows that arriving at such views, holding such views, believing such views, trusting such views will have such and such a consequence in terms of rebirth in the hereafter. This and much more the Tathagata is able to see, for he knows as it really is the coming to be and the passing away of sense experience, the satisfaction of sense experience and the way of escape from sense experience. And because he does not cling to what he sees he is objectively detached and he experiences for himself the peace of utter freedom.
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[81] But of these, Beggars, the [[Tathagata]] [[knows]] that arriving at such [[views]], holding such [[views]], believing such [[views]], trusting such [[views]] will have such and such a consequence in terms of [[rebirth]] in the hereafter. This and much more the [[Tathagata]] is able to see, for he [[knows]] as it really is the coming to be and the passing away of [[sense]] [[experience]], the [[satisfaction]] of [[sense]] [[experience]] and the way of escape from [[sense]] [[experience]]. And because he does not [[cling]] to what he sees he is objectively [[detached]] and he [[experiences]] for himself the [[peace]] of utter freedom.
  
These are advanced things, Beggars, matters that are deep, difficult to see, difficult to grasp, subtle, leading one who follows to tranquility and the sublime; things not to be arrived at by mere logic and reasoning, comprehensible only by the wise. These, Beggars are the things the Tathagata teaches, having seen them for himself. These are the things which should be spoken of by one when he speaks in praise of the Tathagata.
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These are advanced things, Beggars, matters that are deep, difficult to see, difficult to [[grasp]], {{Wiki|subtle}}, leading one who follows to [[tranquility]] and the [[sublime]]; things not to be arrived at by mere [[logic]] and {{Wiki|reasoning}}, comprehensible only by the [[wise]]. These, Beggars are the things the [[Tathagata]] teaches, having seen them for himself. These are the things which should be spoken of by one when he speaks in praise of the [[Tathagata]].
  
====Believers in an Existence after Death that is Neither Conscious nor Unconscious====
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====Believers in an [[Existence]] after [[Death]] that is Neither [[Conscious]] nor [[Unconscious]]====
  
[82] There are, Beggars, some shaman and Brahmans who are Believers in an Existance after Death that is Neither Conscious nor Unconscious and who, on eight grounds, state that the Self is neither conscious nor unconscious after death.
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[82] There are, Beggars, some {{Wiki|shaman}} and [[Brahmans]] who are Believers in an Existance after [[Death]] that is Neither [[Conscious]] nor [[Unconscious]] and who, on eight grounds, [[state]] that the [[Self]] is neither [[conscious]] nor [[unconscious]] after [[death]].
  
 
What eight grounds?
 
What eight grounds?
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[83] They say:
 
[83] They say:
  
The Self neither has nor has not got perception after Death, is whole and has material shape.
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The [[Self]] neither has nor has not got [[perception]] after [[Death]], is whole and has material shape.
  
The Self neither has nor has not got perception after Death, is whole and has no material shape.
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The [[Self]] neither has nor has not got [[perception]] after [[Death]], is whole and has no material shape.
  
The Self neither has nor has not got perception after Death, is whole and both has and has not got material shape.
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The [[Self]] neither has nor has not got [[perception]] after [[Death]], is whole and both has and has not got material shape.
  
The Self neither has nor has not got perception after Death, is whole and neither has nor has not got material shape.
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The [[Self]] neither has nor has not got [[perception]] after [[Death]], is whole and neither has nor has not got material shape.
  
The Self neither has nor has not got perception after Death, is whole and has an end.
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The [[Self]] neither has nor has not got [[perception]] after [[Death]], is whole and has an end.
  
The Self neither has nor has not got perception after Death, is whole and has no end.
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The [[Self]] neither has nor has not got [[perception]] after [[Death]], is whole and has no end.
  
The Self neither has nor has not got perception after Death, is whole and both has an end and has no end.
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The [[Self]] neither has nor has not got [[perception]] after [[Death]], is whole and both has an end and has no end.
  
The Self neither has nor has not got perception after Death, is whole and neither has an end nor has no end.
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The [[Self]] neither has nor has not got [[perception]] after [[Death]], is whole and neither has an end nor has no end.
  
[84] These, beggars, are the shaman and Brahmans who are Believers in an Existence after Death that is Neither Conscious nor Unconscious, and who, on eight grounds state that the Self is neither conscious nor unconscious after death. Whatever shaman or Brahman, Beggars, are Believers in an Existence after Death which is neither conscious nor unconscious, are such in one of these eight ways and no other.
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[84] These, beggars, are the {{Wiki|shaman}} and [[Brahmans]] who are Believers in an [[Existence]] after [[Death]] that is Neither [[Conscious]] nor [[Unconscious]], and who, on eight grounds [[state]] that the [[Self]] is neither [[conscious]] nor [[unconscious]] after [[death]]. Whatever {{Wiki|shaman}} or [[Brahman]], Beggars, are Believers in an [[Existence]] after [[Death]] which is neither [[conscious]] nor [[unconscious]], are such in one of these eight ways and no other.
  
[85] But of these, Beggars, the Tathagata knows that arriving at such views, holding such views, believing such views, trusting such views will have such and such a consequence in terms of rebirth in the hereafter. This and much more the Tathagata is able to see, for he knows as it really is the coming to be and the passing away of sense experience, the satisfaction of sense experience and the way of escape from sense experience. And because he does not cling to what he sees he is objectively detached and he experiences for himself the peace of utter freedom.
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[85] But of these, Beggars, the [[Tathagata]] [[knows]] that arriving at such [[views]], holding such [[views]], believing such [[views]], trusting such [[views]] will have such and such a consequence in terms of [[rebirth]] in the hereafter. This and much more the [[Tathagata]] is able to see, for he [[knows]] as it really is the coming to be and the passing away of [[sense]] [[experience]], the [[satisfaction]] of [[sense]] [[experience]] and the way of escape from [[sense]] [[experience]]. And because he does not [[cling]] to what he sees he is objectively [[detached]] and he [[experiences]] for himself the [[peace]] of utter freedom.
  
These are advanced things, Beggars, matters that are deep, difficult to see, difficult to grasp, subtle, leading one who follows to tranquility and the sublime; things not to be arrived at by mere logic and reasoning, comprehensible only by the wise. These, Beggars are the things the Tathagata teaches, having seen them for himself. These are the things which should be spoken of by one when he speaks in praise of the Tathagata.
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These are advanced things, Beggars, matters that are deep, difficult to see, difficult to [[grasp]], {{Wiki|subtle}}, leading one who follows to [[tranquility]] and the [[sublime]]; things not to be arrived at by mere [[logic]] and {{Wiki|reasoning}}, comprehensible only by the [[wise]]. These, Beggars are the things the [[Tathagata]] teaches, having seen them for himself. These are the things which should be spoken of by one when he speaks in praise of the [[Tathagata]].
  
====Annihilationist====
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===={{Wiki|Annihilationist}}====
  
[86] There are, Beggars, shaman and Brahmans who are Annihilationist, who in seven ways maintain the annihilation, the destruction, the cessation of a living being.
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[86] There are, Beggars, {{Wiki|shaman}} and [[Brahmans]] who are {{Wiki|Annihilationist}}, who in seven ways maintain the {{Wiki|annihilation}}, the destruction, the [[cessation]] of a [[living being]].
  
 
What seven?
 
What seven?
  
[87] In the case of the first case, Beggars, some shaman or Brahman holds the view: "This self is material of the four great elements and comes from a mother and father; at the break up and destruction of the body at death it is completely annihilated."
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[87] In the case of the first case, Beggars, some {{Wiki|shaman}} or [[Brahman]] holds the [[view]]: "This [[self]] is material of the [[four great elements]] and comes from a mother and father; at the break up and destruction of the [[body]] at [[death]] it is completely {{Wiki|annihilated}}."
  
 
This is the first way.
 
This is the first way.
  
[89] Another replies to this: "This far, the Self is such as this, this I do not deny; however the Self is not yet, at this point, completely annihilated. There is another self, of godlike material, living in pleasure, feeding on material food[3]. Although this Self you neither know nor see, I know it and see it. This Self at the break up and destruction of the body at death comes to be completely annihilated."
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[89] Another replies to this: "This far, the [[Self]] is such as this, this I do not deny; however the [[Self]] is not yet, at this point, completely {{Wiki|annihilated}}. There is another [[self]], of [[godlike]] material, living in [[pleasure]], feeding on material [[food]][3]. Although this [[Self]] you neither know nor see, I know it and see it. This [[Self]] at the break up and destruction of the [[body]] at [[death]] comes to be completely {{Wiki|annihilated}}."
  
 
This is the second way.
 
This is the second way.
  
[89] Another replies to this: "This far, the Self is such as this, this I do not deny; however the Self is not yet, at this point, completely annihilated. There is another self, of godlike material, mind-made, complete in every detail and faculty. Although this Self you neither know nor see, I know it and see it. This Self, at the break up and destruction of the body at death comes to be completely annihilated."
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[89] Another replies to this: "This far, the [[Self]] is such as this, this I do not deny; however the [[Self]] is not yet, at this point, completely {{Wiki|annihilated}}. There is another [[self]], of [[godlike]] material, mind-made, complete in every detail and {{Wiki|faculty}}. Although this [[Self]] you neither know nor see, I know it and see it. This [[Self]], at the break up and destruction of the [[body]] at [[death]] comes to be completely {{Wiki|annihilated}}."
  
 
This is the third way.
 
This is the third way.
  
[90] Another replies to this: "This far, the Self is such as this, this I do not deny; however the Self is not yet, at this point, completely annihilated. There is another Self, which having passed past all perception of materiality, by the ending of perception of limit[4], by the settling down of perception of diversity, thinking 'Space is endless!", arises in the Sphere of Endless Space. This Self, at the break up and destruction of the body at death comes to be completely annihilated."
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[90] Another replies to this: "This far, the [[Self]] is such as this, this I do not deny; however the [[Self]] is not yet, at this point, completely {{Wiki|annihilated}}. There is another [[Self]], which having passed {{Wiki|past}} all [[perception]] of [[materiality]], by the ending of [[perception]] of limit[4], by the settling down of [[perception]] of diversity, [[thinking]] '[[Space]] is [[endless]]!", arises in the [[Sphere]] of [[Endless]] [[Space]]. This [[Self]], at the break up and destruction of the [[body]] at [[death]] comes to be completely {{Wiki|annihilated}}."
  
 
This is the fourth way.
 
This is the fourth way.
  
[91] Another replies to this: "This far, the Self is such as this, this I do not deny; however the Self is not yet, at this point, completely annihilated. There is another Self, which having passed past the Sphere of Endless Space, thinking 'Consciousness is endless!', arises in the Sphere of Endless Consciousness. This Self, at the break up and destruction of the body at death comes to be completely annihilated.
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[91] Another replies to this: "This far, the [[Self]] is such as this, this I do not deny; however the [[Self]] is not yet, at this point, completely {{Wiki|annihilated}}. There is another [[Self]], which having passed {{Wiki|past}} the [[Sphere]] of [[Endless]] [[Space]], [[thinking]] '[[Consciousness]] is [[endless]]!', arises in the [[Sphere]] of [[Endless]] [[Consciousness]]. This [[Self]], at the break up and destruction of the [[body]] at [[death]] comes to be completely {{Wiki|annihilated}}.
  
 
This is the fifth way.
 
This is the fifth way.
  
[92] Another replies to this: "This far, the Self is such as this, this I do not deny; however the Self is not yet, at this point, completely annihilated. There is another Self, which having passed past the Sphere of Consciousness, thinking 'There is No Thing There!' arises in the Sphere of No Thing There. This Self, at the break up and destruction of the body at death comes to be completely annihilated.
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[92] Another replies to this: "This far, the [[Self]] is such as this, this I do not deny; however the [[Self]] is not yet, at this point, completely {{Wiki|annihilated}}. There is another [[Self]], which having passed {{Wiki|past}} the [[Sphere]] of [[Consciousness]], [[thinking]] 'There is No Thing There!' arises in the [[Sphere]] of No Thing There. This [[Self]], at the break up and destruction of the [[body]] at [[death]] comes to be completely {{Wiki|annihilated}}.
  
 
This is the sixth way.
 
This is the sixth way.
  
[93] Another replies to this: "This far, the Self is such as this, this I do not deny; however the Self is not yet, at this point, completely annihilated. There is another Self, which having passed past the Sphere of No Thing There, thinking 'This is for real, this is very high' arises in the Sphere of Not Even Perceiving Non-Perception. This Self, at the break up and destruction of the body at death comes to be completely annihilated.
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[93] Another replies to this: "This far, the [[Self]] is such as this, this I do not deny; however the [[Self]] is not yet, at this point, completely {{Wiki|annihilated}}. There is another [[Self]], which having passed {{Wiki|past}} the [[Sphere]] of No Thing There, [[thinking]] 'This is for real, this is very high' arises in the [[Sphere]] of Not Even Perceiving Non-Perception. This [[Self]], at the break up and destruction of the [[body]] at [[death]] comes to be completely {{Wiki|annihilated}}.
  
 
This is the seventh way.
 
This is the seventh way.
  
[94] These are the shaman and Brahmans, Beggars, who are Annihilationists, who in seven ways maintain the annihilation, the destruction, the cessation of a living being. Whatever shaman or Brahman, Beggars, are Believers in the Annihilation of the Self after Death, are such in one of these seven ways and no other.
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[94] These are the {{Wiki|shaman}} and [[Brahmans]], Beggars, who are Annihilationists, who in seven ways maintain the {{Wiki|annihilation}}, the destruction, the [[cessation]] of a [[living being]]. Whatever {{Wiki|shaman}} or [[Brahman]], Beggars, are Believers in the {{Wiki|Annihilation}} of the [[Self]] after [[Death]], are such in one of these seven ways and no other.
  
[95] But of these, Beggars, the Tathagata knows that arriving at such views, holding such views, believing such views, trusting such views will have such and such a consequence in terms of rebirth in the hereafter. This and much more the Tathagata is able to see, for he knows as it really is the coming to be and the passing away of sense experience, the satisfaction of sense experience and the way of escape from sense experience. And because he does not cling to what he sees he is objectively detached and he experiences for himself the peace of utter freedom.
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[95] But of these, Beggars, the [[Tathagata]] [[knows]] that arriving at such [[views]], holding such [[views]], believing such [[views]], trusting such [[views]] will have such and such a consequence in terms of [[rebirth]] in the hereafter. This and much more the [[Tathagata]] is able to see, for he [[knows]] as it really is the coming to be and the passing away of [[sense]] [[experience]], the [[satisfaction]] of [[sense]] [[experience]] and the way of escape from [[sense]] [[experience]]. And because he does not [[cling]] to what he sees he is objectively [[detached]] and he [[experiences]] for himself the [[peace]] of utter freedom.
  
These are advanced things, Beggars, matters that are deep, difficult to see, difficult to grasp, subtle, leading one who follows to tranquility and the sublime; things not to be arrived at by mere logic and reasoning, comprehensible only by the wise. These, Beggars are the things the Tathagata teaches, having seen them for himself. These are the things which should be spoken of by one when he speaks in praise of the Tathagata.
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These are advanced things, Beggars, matters that are deep, difficult to see, difficult to [[grasp]], {{Wiki|subtle}}, leading one who follows to [[tranquility]] and the [[sublime]]; things not to be arrived at by mere [[logic]] and {{Wiki|reasoning}}, comprehensible only by the [[wise]]. These, Beggars are the things the [[Tathagata]] teaches, having seen them for himself. These are the things which should be spoken of by one when he speaks in praise of the [[Tathagata]].
  
 
====Nibbana-Amidst-Visible-Things====
 
====Nibbana-Amidst-Visible-Things====
  
[96] There are, Beggars, shaman and Brahmans who hold that Nibbana is to be had Here Amidst Visible Things, who in five ways maintain that Nibbana is to be had by living beings Here Amidst Visible Things.
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[96] There are, Beggars, {{Wiki|shaman}} and [[Brahmans]] who hold that [[Nibbana]] is to be had Here Amidst [[Visible]] Things, who in five ways maintain that [[Nibbana]] is to be had by [[living beings]] Here Amidst [[Visible]] Things.
  
 
What five?
 
What five?
  
[97] Here some shaman or Brahman holds the view: "The Self is in the highest Nibbana Here Amidst Visible Things when it is fully indulging the five senses with which it is endowed."
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[97] Here some {{Wiki|shaman}} or [[Brahman]] holds the [[view]]: "The [[Self]] is in the [[highest]] [[Nibbana]] Here Amidst [[Visible]] Things when it is fully indulging the [[five senses]] with which it is endowed."
  
 
This is the first.
 
This is the first.
  
[98] Another replies to this: "This far, the Self enjoys Nibbana Here Amidst Visible Things, this I do not deny; however the Self is not yet, at this point, enjoying the highest Nibbana Here Amidst Visible Things.
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[98] Another replies to this: "This far, the [[Self]] enjoys [[Nibbana]] Here Amidst [[Visible]] Things, this I do not deny; however the [[Self]] is not yet, at this point, enjoying the [[highest]] [[Nibbana]] Here Amidst [[Visible]] Things.
 
How come?
 
How come?
Because sense pleasures are impermanent, subject to change and the upshot of that is pain, grief and lamentation, misery and upset. But when this Self apart from pleasure-seeking and unskillful things, in full enjoyment of the sense of ease resulting from solitude, with thinking and reflection, arrives at and stays in the First Burning, then The Self is in the highest Nibbana Here Amidst Visible Things."
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Because [[sense]] [[pleasures]] are [[impermanent]], [[subject]] to change and the upshot of that is [[pain]], [[grief]] and [[lamentation]], [[misery]] and upset. But when this [[Self]] apart from pleasure-seeking and [[unskillful]] things, in full [[enjoyment]] of the [[sense]] of ease resulting from [[solitude]], with [[thinking]] and {{Wiki|reflection}}, arrives at and stays in the First Burning, then The [[Self]] is in the [[highest]] [[Nibbana]] Here Amidst [[Visible]] Things."
  
 
This is the second.
 
This is the second.
  
[99] Another replies to this: "This far, the Self enjoys Nibbana Here Amidst Visible Things, this I do not deny; however the Self is not yet, at this point, enjoying the highest Nibbana Here Amidst Visible Things.
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[99] Another replies to this: "This far, the [[Self]] enjoys [[Nibbana]] Here Amidst [[Visible]] Things, this I do not deny; however the [[Self]] is not yet, at this point, enjoying the [[highest]] [[Nibbana]] Here Amidst [[Visible]] Things.
 
How come?
 
How come?
Because the thinking and reflection associated with this state is considered excessive. But when this Self has got rid of the thinking and reflection associated with this state, in full enjoyment of the sense of ease and enthusiasm resulting from getting high apart from thinking and reflection, with the mind subjectively tranquilized and concentrated, arrives at and stays in the Second Burning, then The Self is in the highest Nibbana Here Amidst Visible Things."
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Because the [[thinking]] and {{Wiki|reflection}} associated with this [[state]] is considered excessive. But when this [[Self]] has got rid of the [[thinking]] and {{Wiki|reflection}} associated with this [[state]], in full [[enjoyment]] of the [[sense]] of ease and [[enthusiasm]] resulting from getting high apart from [[thinking]] and {{Wiki|reflection}}, with the [[mind]] subjectively tranquilized and [[concentrated]], arrives at and stays in the Second Burning, then The [[Self]] is in the [[highest]] [[Nibbana]] Here Amidst [[Visible]] Things."
  
 
This is the third.
 
This is the third.
  
[100] Another replies to this: "This far, the Self enjoys Nibbana Here Amidst Visible Things, this I do not deny; however the Self is not yet, at this point, enjoying the highest Nibbana Here Amidst Visible Things.
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[100] Another replies to this: "This far, the [[Self]] enjoys [[Nibbana]] Here Amidst [[Visible]] Things, this I do not deny; however the [[Self]] is not yet, at this point, enjoying the [[highest]] [[Nibbana]] Here Amidst [[Visible]] Things.
 
How come?
 
How come?
Because the mind is excited by enthusiasm associated with this state and this is considered excessive. But when this Self has got rid of the excitement of enthusiasm, lives objectively detached, alert, and experiencing for himself that pleasant ease described by the Aristocrats as 'detached in mind, he lives at ease", arrives at and stays in the Third Burning, then The Self is in the highest Nibbana Here Amidst Visible Things.
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Because the [[mind]] is excited by [[enthusiasm]] associated with this [[state]] and this is considered excessive. But when this [[Self]] has got rid of the [[excitement]] of [[enthusiasm]], [[lives]] objectively [[detached]], alert, and experiencing for himself that [[pleasant]] ease described by the {{Wiki|Aristocrats}} as '[[detached]] in [[mind]], he [[lives]] at ease", arrives at and stays in the Third Burning, then The [[Self]] is in the [[highest]] [[Nibbana]] Here Amidst [[Visible]] Things.
  
 
This is the fourth.
 
This is the fourth.
  
[101] Another replies to this: "this far, the Self enjoys Nibbana Here Amidst Visible Things, this I do not deny; however the Self is not yet, at this point, enjoying the highest Nibbana Here Amidst Visible Things.
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[101] Another replies to this: "this far, the [[Self]] enjoys [[Nibbana]] Here Amidst [[Visible]] Things, this I do not deny; however the [[Self]] is not yet, at this point, enjoying the [[highest]] [[Nibbana]] Here Amidst [[Visible]] Things.
 
How come?
 
How come?
Because the mind's obsession with ease is considered excessive. But when this Self has let go of both pain and pleasure; has let mental ease and mental pain subside, and while alert and experiencing the state of utterly purified detachment enters on and stays in the Fourth Burning, then The self is in the highest Nibbana Here Amidst Visible Things.
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Because the [[mind's]] {{Wiki|obsession}} with ease is considered excessive. But when this [[Self]] has let go of both [[pain]] and [[pleasure]]; has let [[mental]] ease and [[mental]] [[pain]] subside, and while alert and experiencing the [[state]] of utterly [[purified]] [[detachment]] enters on and stays in the Fourth Burning, then The [[self]] is in the [[highest]] [[Nibbana]] Here Amidst [[Visible]] Things.
  
 
This is the fifth.
 
This is the fifth.
  
[102] These are the shaman and Brahmans, Beggars, who hold that Nibbana is to be had Here Amidst Visible Things, who in five ways maintain that Nibbana is to be had by living beings Here Amidst Visible Things. Whatever shaman or Brahman, Beggars, hold that Nibbana is to be had the Here Amidst Visible Things, are such in one of these five ways and no other.
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[102] These are the {{Wiki|shaman}} and [[Brahmans]], Beggars, who hold that [[Nibbana]] is to be had Here Amidst [[Visible]] Things, who in five ways maintain that [[Nibbana]] is to be had by [[living beings]] Here Amidst [[Visible]] Things. Whatever {{Wiki|shaman}} or [[Brahman]], Beggars, hold that [[Nibbana]] is to be had the Here Amidst [[Visible]] Things, are such in one of these five ways and no other.
  
[103] But of these, Beggars, the Tathagata knows that arriving at such views, holding such views, believing such views, trusting such views will have such and such a consequence in terms of rebirth in the hereafter. This and much more the Tathagata is able to see, for he knows as it really is the coming to be and the passing away of sense experience, the satisfaction of sense experience and the way of escape from sense experience. And because he does not cling to what he sees he is objectively detached and he experiences for himself the peace of utter freedom.
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[103] But of these, Beggars, the [[Tathagata]] [[knows]] that arriving at such [[views]], holding such [[views]], believing such [[views]], trusting such [[views]] will have such and such a consequence in terms of [[rebirth]] in the hereafter. This and much more the [[Tathagata]] is able to see, for he [[knows]] as it really is the coming to be and the passing away of [[sense]] [[experience]], the [[satisfaction]] of [[sense]] [[experience]] and the way of escape from [[sense]] [[experience]]. And because he does not [[cling]] to what he sees he is objectively [[detached]] and he [[experiences]] for himself the [[peace]] of utter freedom.
  
These are advanced things, Beggars, matters that are deep, difficult to see, difficult to grasp, subtle, leading one who follows to tranquility and the sublime; things not to be arrived at by mere logic and reasoning, comprehensible only by the wise. These, Beggars are the things the Tathagata teaches, having seen them for himself. These are the things which should be spoken of by one when he speaks in praise of the Tathagata.
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These are advanced things, Beggars, matters that are deep, difficult to see, difficult to [[grasp]], {{Wiki|subtle}}, leading one who follows to [[tranquility]] and the [[sublime]]; things not to be arrived at by mere [[logic]] and {{Wiki|reasoning}}, comprehensible only by the [[wise]]. These, Beggars are the things the [[Tathagata]] teaches, having seen them for himself. These are the things which should be spoken of by one when he speaks in praise of the [[Tathagata]].
  
[104] These are the shaman and Brahmans, Beggars, who speculate about the future, whose speculations are about the future, and who on forty-four grounds put forward various assertions regarding it. Whatever shaman or Brahman, Beggars, speculate about the future, whose speculations are about the future, are such in one of these forty-four grounds and no other.
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[104] These are the {{Wiki|shaman}} and [[Brahmans]], Beggars, who speculate about the {{Wiki|future}}, whose speculations are about the {{Wiki|future}}, and who on forty-four grounds put forward various assertions regarding it. Whatever {{Wiki|shaman}} or [[Brahman]], Beggars, speculate about the {{Wiki|future}}, whose speculations are about the {{Wiki|future}}, are such in one of these forty-four grounds and no other.
  
[105] But of these, Beggars, the Tathagata knows that arriving at such views, holding such views, believing such views, trusting such views will have such and such a consequence in terms of rebirth in the hereafter. This and much more the Tathagata is able to see, for he knows as it really is the coming to be and the passing away of sense experience, the satisfaction of sense experience and the way of escape from sense experience. And because he does not cling to what he sees he is objectively detached and he experiences for himself the peace of utter freedom.
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[105] But of these, Beggars, the [[Tathagata]] [[knows]] that arriving at such [[views]], holding such [[views]], believing such [[views]], trusting such [[views]] will have such and such a consequence in terms of [[rebirth]] in the hereafter. This and much more the [[Tathagata]] is able to see, for he [[knows]] as it really is the coming to be and the passing away of [[sense]] [[experience]], the [[satisfaction]] of [[sense]] [[experience]] and the way of escape from [[sense]] [[experience]]. And because he does not [[cling]] to what he sees he is objectively [[detached]] and he [[experiences]] for himself the [[peace]] of utter freedom.
  
 
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Digha Nikaya
Sutta 1
Brahmajala Sutta
BrahmaNet Spell


Partly translated from the Pali by Michael Olds, partly 'adapted/edited' from the Rhys Davids' translation


On Higher Dhamma III

Speculation about the Future

[74] There are shaman and Brahmans, Beggars, who speculate about the future, whose speculations are about the future, and who on forty-four grounds put forward various assertions regarding it.

What forty-four grounds?

Believers in Conscious Existence after Death

[75] There are, Beggars, some shaman and Brahmans who are Believers in a Conscious Existence after Death, and who, on sixteen grounds, state that the Self is conscious after death.

What sixteen grounds?

They say:

The Self has perception after Death, is whole and has material shape.
The Self has perception after Death, is whole and has no material shape.
The Self has perception after Death, is whole and both has and has not got material shape.
The Self has perception after Death, is whole and neither has nor has not got material shape.

The Self has perception after Death, is whole and has an end.
The Self has perception after Death, is whole and has no end.
The Self has perception after Death, is whole and both has an end and has no end.
The Self has perception after Death, is whole and neither has an end nor has no end.

The self has perception after Death, is whole and has one mode of perception.
The self has perception after Death, is whole and has diverse modes of perception.
The self has perception after Death, is whole and has limited perception.
The self has perception after Death, is whole and has unbounded perception.

The self has perception after Death, is whole and is primarily happy.
The self has perception after Death, is whole and is primarily in pain.
The self has perception after Death, is whole and is both happy and in pain.
The self has perception after Death, is whole and is neither happy nor in pain.

[76] These, beggars, are the shaman and Brahmans who are Believers in a Conscious Existence after Death, and who, on sixteen grounds state that the Self is conscious after death. Whatever shaman or Brahman, Beggars, are Believers in a Conscious Existence after Death, are such in one of these sixteen ways and no other.

[77] But of these, Beggars, the Tathagata knows that arriving at such views, holding such views, believing such views, trusting such views will have such and such a consequence in terms of rebirth in the hereafter. This and much more the Tathagata is able to see, for he knows as it really is the coming to be and the passing away of sense experience, the satisfaction of sense experience and the way of escape from sense experience. And because he does not cling to what he sees he is objectively detached and he experiences for himself the peace of utter freedom.

These are advanced things, Beggars, matters that are deep, difficult to see, difficult to grasp, subtle, leading one who follows to tranquility and the sublime; things not to be arrived at by mere logic and reasoning, comprehensible only by the wise. These, Beggars are the things the Tathagata teaches, having seen them for himself. These are the things which should be spoken of by one when he speaks in praise of the Tathagata.

Believers in an Unconscious Existence after Death

[78] [3.1] There are, Beggars, some shaman and Brahmans who are Believers in an Unconscious Existence after Death, and who, on eight grounds, state that the Self is not conscious after death.

What eight grounds?

[79] They say:

The Self has no perception after Death, is whole and has material shape.
The Self has no perception after Death, is whole and has no material shape.
The Self has no perception after Death, is whole and both has and has not got material shape.
The Self, has no perception after Death, is whole and neither has nor has not got material shape.
The Self has no perception after Death, is whole and has an end.
The Self has no perception after Death, is whole and has no end.
The Self has no perception after Death, is whole and both has an end and has no end.
The Self has no perception after Death, is whole and neither has an end nor has no end.

[80] These, beggars, are the shaman and Brahmans who are Believers in an Unconscious Existence after Death, and who, on eight grounds state that the Self is unconscious after death. Whatever shaman or Brahman, Beggars, are Believers in an Unconscious Existence after Death, are such in one of these eight ways and no other.

[81] But of these, Beggars, the Tathagata knows that arriving at such views, holding such views, believing such views, trusting such views will have such and such a consequence in terms of rebirth in the hereafter. This and much more the Tathagata is able to see, for he knows as it really is the coming to be and the passing away of sense experience, the satisfaction of sense experience and the way of escape from sense experience. And because he does not cling to what he sees he is objectively detached and he experiences for himself the peace of utter freedom.

These are advanced things, Beggars, matters that are deep, difficult to see, difficult to grasp, subtle, leading one who follows to tranquility and the sublime; things not to be arrived at by mere logic and reasoning, comprehensible only by the wise. These, Beggars are the things the Tathagata teaches, having seen them for himself. These are the things which should be spoken of by one when he speaks in praise of the Tathagata.

Believers in an Existence after Death that is Neither Conscious nor Unconscious

[82] There are, Beggars, some shaman and Brahmans who are Believers in an Existance after Death that is Neither Conscious nor Unconscious and who, on eight grounds, state that the Self is neither conscious nor unconscious after death.

What eight grounds?

[83] They say:

The Self neither has nor has not got perception after Death, is whole and has material shape.

The Self neither has nor has not got perception after Death, is whole and has no material shape.

The Self neither has nor has not got perception after Death, is whole and both has and has not got material shape.

The Self neither has nor has not got perception after Death, is whole and neither has nor has not got material shape.

The Self neither has nor has not got perception after Death, is whole and has an end.

The Self neither has nor has not got perception after Death, is whole and has no end.

The Self neither has nor has not got perception after Death, is whole and both has an end and has no end.

The Self neither has nor has not got perception after Death, is whole and neither has an end nor has no end.

[84] These, beggars, are the shaman and Brahmans who are Believers in an Existence after Death that is Neither Conscious nor Unconscious, and who, on eight grounds state that the Self is neither conscious nor unconscious after death. Whatever shaman or Brahman, Beggars, are Believers in an Existence after Death which is neither conscious nor unconscious, are such in one of these eight ways and no other.

[85] But of these, Beggars, the Tathagata knows that arriving at such views, holding such views, believing such views, trusting such views will have such and such a consequence in terms of rebirth in the hereafter. This and much more the Tathagata is able to see, for he knows as it really is the coming to be and the passing away of sense experience, the satisfaction of sense experience and the way of escape from sense experience. And because he does not cling to what he sees he is objectively detached and he experiences for himself the peace of utter freedom.

These are advanced things, Beggars, matters that are deep, difficult to see, difficult to grasp, subtle, leading one who follows to tranquility and the sublime; things not to be arrived at by mere logic and reasoning, comprehensible only by the wise. These, Beggars are the things the Tathagata teaches, having seen them for himself. These are the things which should be spoken of by one when he speaks in praise of the Tathagata.

Annihilationist

[86] There are, Beggars, shaman and Brahmans who are Annihilationist, who in seven ways maintain the annihilation, the destruction, the cessation of a living being.

What seven?

[87] In the case of the first case, Beggars, some shaman or Brahman holds the view: "This self is material of the four great elements and comes from a mother and father; at the break up and destruction of the body at death it is completely annihilated."

This is the first way.

[89] Another replies to this: "This far, the Self is such as this, this I do not deny; however the Self is not yet, at this point, completely annihilated. There is another self, of godlike material, living in pleasure, feeding on material food[3]. Although this Self you neither know nor see, I know it and see it. This Self at the break up and destruction of the body at death comes to be completely annihilated."

This is the second way.

[89] Another replies to this: "This far, the Self is such as this, this I do not deny; however the Self is not yet, at this point, completely annihilated. There is another self, of godlike material, mind-made, complete in every detail and faculty. Although this Self you neither know nor see, I know it and see it. This Self, at the break up and destruction of the body at death comes to be completely annihilated."

This is the third way.

[90] Another replies to this: "This far, the Self is such as this, this I do not deny; however the Self is not yet, at this point, completely annihilated. There is another Self, which having passed past all perception of materiality, by the ending of perception of limit[4], by the settling down of perception of diversity, thinking 'Space is endless!", arises in the Sphere of Endless Space. This Self, at the break up and destruction of the body at death comes to be completely annihilated."

This is the fourth way.

[91] Another replies to this: "This far, the Self is such as this, this I do not deny; however the Self is not yet, at this point, completely annihilated. There is another Self, which having passed past the Sphere of Endless Space, thinking 'Consciousness is endless!', arises in the Sphere of Endless Consciousness. This Self, at the break up and destruction of the body at death comes to be completely annihilated.

This is the fifth way.

[92] Another replies to this: "This far, the Self is such as this, this I do not deny; however the Self is not yet, at this point, completely annihilated. There is another Self, which having passed past the Sphere of Consciousness, thinking 'There is No Thing There!' arises in the Sphere of No Thing There. This Self, at the break up and destruction of the body at death comes to be completely annihilated.

This is the sixth way.

[93] Another replies to this: "This far, the Self is such as this, this I do not deny; however the Self is not yet, at this point, completely annihilated. There is another Self, which having passed past the Sphere of No Thing There, thinking 'This is for real, this is very high' arises in the Sphere of Not Even Perceiving Non-Perception. This Self, at the break up and destruction of the body at death comes to be completely annihilated.

This is the seventh way.

[94] These are the shaman and Brahmans, Beggars, who are Annihilationists, who in seven ways maintain the annihilation, the destruction, the cessation of a living being. Whatever shaman or Brahman, Beggars, are Believers in the Annihilation of the Self after Death, are such in one of these seven ways and no other.

[95] But of these, Beggars, the Tathagata knows that arriving at such views, holding such views, believing such views, trusting such views will have such and such a consequence in terms of rebirth in the hereafter. This and much more the Tathagata is able to see, for he knows as it really is the coming to be and the passing away of sense experience, the satisfaction of sense experience and the way of escape from sense experience. And because he does not cling to what he sees he is objectively detached and he experiences for himself the peace of utter freedom.

These are advanced things, Beggars, matters that are deep, difficult to see, difficult to grasp, subtle, leading one who follows to tranquility and the sublime; things not to be arrived at by mere logic and reasoning, comprehensible only by the wise. These, Beggars are the things the Tathagata teaches, having seen them for himself. These are the things which should be spoken of by one when he speaks in praise of the Tathagata.

Nibbana-Amidst-Visible-Things

[96] There are, Beggars, shaman and Brahmans who hold that Nibbana is to be had Here Amidst Visible Things, who in five ways maintain that Nibbana is to be had by living beings Here Amidst Visible Things.

What five?

[97] Here some shaman or Brahman holds the view: "The Self is in the highest Nibbana Here Amidst Visible Things when it is fully indulging the five senses with which it is endowed."

This is the first.

[98] Another replies to this: "This far, the Self enjoys Nibbana Here Amidst Visible Things, this I do not deny; however the Self is not yet, at this point, enjoying the highest Nibbana Here Amidst Visible Things. How come? Because sense pleasures are impermanent, subject to change and the upshot of that is pain, grief and lamentation, misery and upset. But when this Self apart from pleasure-seeking and unskillful things, in full enjoyment of the sense of ease resulting from solitude, with thinking and reflection, arrives at and stays in the First Burning, then The Self is in the highest Nibbana Here Amidst Visible Things."

This is the second.

[99] Another replies to this: "This far, the Self enjoys Nibbana Here Amidst Visible Things, this I do not deny; however the Self is not yet, at this point, enjoying the highest Nibbana Here Amidst Visible Things. How come? Because the thinking and reflection associated with this state is considered excessive. But when this Self has got rid of the thinking and reflection associated with this state, in full enjoyment of the sense of ease and enthusiasm resulting from getting high apart from thinking and reflection, with the mind subjectively tranquilized and concentrated, arrives at and stays in the Second Burning, then The Self is in the highest Nibbana Here Amidst Visible Things."

This is the third.

[100] Another replies to this: "This far, the Self enjoys Nibbana Here Amidst Visible Things, this I do not deny; however the Self is not yet, at this point, enjoying the highest Nibbana Here Amidst Visible Things. How come? Because the mind is excited by enthusiasm associated with this state and this is considered excessive. But when this Self has got rid of the excitement of enthusiasm, lives objectively detached, alert, and experiencing for himself that pleasant ease described by the Aristocrats as 'detached in mind, he lives at ease", arrives at and stays in the Third Burning, then The Self is in the highest Nibbana Here Amidst Visible Things.

This is the fourth.

[101] Another replies to this: "this far, the Self enjoys Nibbana Here Amidst Visible Things, this I do not deny; however the Self is not yet, at this point, enjoying the highest Nibbana Here Amidst Visible Things. How come? Because the mind's obsession with ease is considered excessive. But when this Self has let go of both pain and pleasure; has let mental ease and mental pain subside, and while alert and experiencing the state of utterly purified detachment enters on and stays in the Fourth Burning, then The self is in the highest Nibbana Here Amidst Visible Things.

This is the fifth.

[102] These are the shaman and Brahmans, Beggars, who hold that Nibbana is to be had Here Amidst Visible Things, who in five ways maintain that Nibbana is to be had by living beings Here Amidst Visible Things. Whatever shaman or Brahman, Beggars, hold that Nibbana is to be had the Here Amidst Visible Things, are such in one of these five ways and no other.

[103] But of these, Beggars, the Tathagata knows that arriving at such views, holding such views, believing such views, trusting such views will have such and such a consequence in terms of rebirth in the hereafter. This and much more the Tathagata is able to see, for he knows as it really is the coming to be and the passing away of sense experience, the satisfaction of sense experience and the way of escape from sense experience. And because he does not cling to what he sees he is objectively detached and he experiences for himself the peace of utter freedom.

These are advanced things, Beggars, matters that are deep, difficult to see, difficult to grasp, subtle, leading one who follows to tranquility and the sublime; things not to be arrived at by mere logic and reasoning, comprehensible only by the wise. These, Beggars are the things the Tathagata teaches, having seen them for himself. These are the things which should be spoken of by one when he speaks in praise of the Tathagata.

[104] These are the shaman and Brahmans, Beggars, who speculate about the future, whose speculations are about the future, and who on forty-four grounds put forward various assertions regarding it. Whatever shaman or Brahman, Beggars, speculate about the future, whose speculations are about the future, are such in one of these forty-four grounds and no other.

[105] But of these, Beggars, the Tathagata knows that arriving at such views, holding such views, believing such views, trusting such views will have such and such a consequence in terms of rebirth in the hereafter. This and much more the Tathagata is able to see, for he knows as it really is the coming to be and the passing away of sense experience, the satisfaction of sense experience and the way of escape from sense experience. And because he does not cling to what he sees he is objectively detached and he experiences for himself the peace of utter freedom.

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