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In terms of Buddhist meditation does it make a difference if one is a man or a woman? I do not know. Time to time, I dream of finding an answer to this question by going around interviewing men and women about their meditation practice. But I am generally daunted by the complexity of the task.
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In terms of [[Buddhist meditation]] does it make a difference if one is a man or a woman? I do not know. Time to time, I [[dream]] of finding an answer to this question by going around interviewing men and women about their [[meditation practice]]. But I am generally daunted by the complexity of the task.
  
It is important to acknowledge that Buddhism in itself is conditioned by the culture and social context in which it has grown. Although Buddhists sometimes proclaim transcendental values, a practitioner might transcend hatred, greed and delusion but would not necessarily transcend his or her own spiritual experiences or his/her social conditionings.
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It is important to [[acknowledge]] that [[Buddhism]] in itself is [[conditioned]] by the {{Wiki|culture}} and {{Wiki|social}} context in which it has grown. Although [[Buddhists]] sometimes proclaim [[transcendental]] values, a [[practitioner]] might transcend [[hatred]], [[greed]] and [[delusion]] but would not necessarily transcend his or her [[own]] [[spiritual experiences]] or his/her {{Wiki|social}} conditionings.
  
Secondly, people with little dust in their eyes who practise diligently are relatively few compared to the whole population of a country, therefore people of wisdom tend not to achieve a critical mass which would be able to change society deeply. Hence it is natural that society's own values and cultural preferences will influence Buddhism more than Buddhism will influence the society.
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Secondly, [[people]] with little dust in their [[eyes]] who practise diligently are relatively few compared to the whole population of a country, therefore [[people]] of [[wisdom]] tend not to achieve a critical {{Wiki|mass}} which would be able to change [[society]] deeply. Hence it is natural that society's [[own]] values and {{Wiki|cultural}} preferences will influence [[Buddhism]] more than [[Buddhism]] will influence the [[society]].
  
All this preamble is to explain why Buddhism in the past has been relatively patriarchal. Not because it is intrinsic to Buddhism but because it would have been truly amazing if it had not been because of the existing social patriarchal conditions. For this reason I am personally grateful that the Buddha let an order of nuns happen. He was already going against the tendencies of his time.
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All this preamble is to explain why [[Buddhism]] in the {{Wiki|past}} has been relatively [[patriarchal]]. Not because it is intrinsic to [[Buddhism]] but because it would have been truly amazing if it had not been because of the [[existing]] {{Wiki|social}} [[patriarchal]] [[conditions]]. For this [[reason]] I am personally grateful that the [[Buddha]] let an [[order of nuns]] happen. He was already going against the {{Wiki|tendencies}} of his time.
  
It is interesting to notice where all the Buddhist traditions are today. They all started from the same point. But 2500 years later, the positions of the nuns in the various traditions and Buddhist countries are very different. Simply put, I would grade it this way: in Korea, the nuns are 98% equal; in Taiwan, 95%; in Sri Lanka, it used to be 40% now I would say 80%; in Burma 55%; in Japan, 50%; in Tibetan Buddhism, 45%; in Thailand, 20%. I do not think this tells us so much about Buddhism as it tells us about cultural tendencies and historical facts.
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It is [[interesting]] to notice where all the [[Buddhist traditions]] are today. They all started from the same point. But 2500 years later, the positions of the [[nuns]] in the various [[traditions]] and [[Buddhist]] countries are very different. Simply put, I would grade it this way: in [[Korea]], the [[nuns]] are 98% {{Wiki|equal}}; in [[Taiwan]], 95%; in [[Sri Lanka]], it used to be 40% now I would say 80%; in [[Burma]] 55%; in [[Japan]], 50%; in [[Tibetan Buddhism]], 45%; in [[Thailand]], 20%. I do not think this tells us so much about [[Buddhism]] as it tells us about {{Wiki|cultural}} {{Wiki|tendencies}} and historical facts.
 
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In Korea, the full ordination is available to nuns. They have their own nunneries, their own preceptresses, their own abbesses and teachers. They are financially independent from the monks. For five hundred years, from 1400 to 1900, Buddhism was repressed by a Confucianist regime so monks had little power. Monks and nuns were very equal in their having to survive against difficult odds. In Korea, there is also a very strong tradition of female shamans. All these various conditions could go towards explaining why Korean nuns are the most equal to the monks among all Buddhist traditions.
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In [[Korea]], the [[full ordination]] is available to [[nuns]]. They have their [[own]] [[nunneries]], their [[own]] preceptresses, their [[own]] abbesses and [[teachers]]. They are financially {{Wiki|independent}} from the [[monks]]. For five hundred years, from 1400 to 1900, [[Buddhism]] was repressed by a [[Confucianist]] regime so [[monks]] had little power. [[Monks and nuns]] were very {{Wiki|equal}} in their having to survive against difficult odds. In [[Korea]], there is also a very strong [[tradition]] of {{Wiki|female}} {{Wiki|shamans}}. All these various [[conditions]] could go towards explaining why [[Korean]] [[nuns]] are the most {{Wiki|equal}} to the [[monks]] among all [[Buddhist traditions]].
  
In Taiwan, nuns have the full ordination but generally the nuns' preceptor is a monk apart from a few exceptions. There are many more nuns than monks and they generally live in the same compound. In Japan the position of the nuns is very ambiguous and there are very few. They live in small temples, they have few training places. They often have to support themselves financially by working outside teaching. Japanese monks can marry but nuns are not encouraged to do so.
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In [[Taiwan]], [[nuns]] have the [[full ordination]] but generally the [[nuns]]' [[preceptor]] is a [[monk]] apart from a few exceptions. There are many more [[nuns]] than [[monks]] and they generally live in the same compound. In [[Japan]] the position of the [[nuns]] is very {{Wiki|ambiguous}} and there are very few. They live in small [[temples]], they have few {{Wiki|training}} places. They often have to support themselves financially by working outside [[teaching]]. [[Japanese monks]] can marry but [[nuns]] are not encouraged to do so.
  
Tibetan nuns can be ordained only as sramanerikas (36 precepts). As far as we know, the full ordination never reached Tibet. They are fewer than the monks and have limited opportunity to study and to meditate, though this is improving. The Korean, Taiwanese, Japanese and Tibetan nuns wear the same robes as the monks.
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[[Tibetan nuns]] can be [[ordained]] only as [[sramanerikas]] (36 [[precepts]]). As far as we know, the [[full ordination]] never reached [[Tibet]]. They are fewer than the [[monks]] and have limited opportunity to study and to [[meditate]], though this is improving. The [[Korean]], [[Wikipedia:Taiwanese people|Taiwanese]], [[Japanese]] and [[Tibetan nuns]] wear the same [[robes]] as the [[monks]].
 
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In Sri Lanka, the nuns used to take only ten precepts, were not recognised as sramanerikas and were not really considered a part of the Sangha. Now there is full ordination in Sri Lanka and they have started to receive more support and training. They dress in saffron robes. In Burma, they are called anagarikas (which is the name given to laypeople who live a life of celibacy and training). They dress either in orange or pink robes. In Thailand the nuns receive eight precepts and are not considered anything, laywomen or nuns. They wear white and often serve as servants to the monks, specially by cooking for them, though this is starting to change.
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In [[Sri Lanka]], the [[nuns]] used to take only [[ten precepts]], were not recognised as [[sramanerikas]] and were not really considered a part of the [[Sangha]]. Now there is [[full ordination]] in [[Sri Lanka]] and they have started to receive more support and {{Wiki|training}}. They dress in {{Wiki|saffron}} [[robes]]. In [[Burma]], they are called [[anagarikas]] (which is the [[name]] given to [[laypeople]] who live a [[life]] of [[celibacy]] and {{Wiki|training}}). They dress either in orange or pink [[robes]]. In [[Thailand]] the [[nuns]] receive [[eight precepts]] and are not considered anything, [[laywomen]] or [[nuns]]. They wear white and often serve as servants to the [[monks]], specially by cooking for them, though this is starting to change.
  
Why did the full ordination for nuns reach Sri Lanka but die out until recently? The full ordination for the monks died out several times in Sri Lanka but every time it was revived. I would suggest it was because the society did not consider the women equal in general and the women having more restrictions placed on their actions in those days, it would have been harder if not impossible for them to organise a trip to Burma which is what the monks and their supporters did.
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Why did the [[full ordination]] for [[nuns]] reach [[Sri Lanka]] but [[die]] out until recently? The [[full ordination]] for the [[monks]] [[died]] out several times in [[Sri Lanka]] but every time it was revived. I would suggest it was because the [[society]] did not consider the women {{Wiki|equal}} in general and the women having more restrictions placed on their [[actions]] in those days, it would have been harder if not impossible for them to organise a trip to [[Burma]] which is what the [[monks]] and their supporters did.
  
Why is it that the full ordination reached China and Korea and survived there and why did it not reach Tibet or Thailand? Is it historical or geographical? Is it something in the culture itself? Confucianism is a very strong part of both Chinese and Korean culture. Is it because of their kind of Buddhism? But Tibetan Buddhism and Thai Buddhism could not be more different? As yet I do not have the answers to these questions. It would necessitate not only research in the religious life of those times but also anthropological, cultural and historical studies.
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Why is it that the [[full ordination]] reached [[China]] and [[Korea]] and survived there and why did it not reach [[Tibet]] or [[Thailand]]? Is it historical or geographical? Is it something in the {{Wiki|culture}} itself? [[Wikipedia:Confucianism|Confucianism]] is a very strong part of both {{Wiki|Chinese}} and [[Korean culture]]. Is it because of their kind of [[Buddhism]]? But [[Tibetan Buddhism]] and [[Thai Buddhism]] could not be more different? As yet I do not have the answers to these questions. It would necessitate not only research in the [[religious]] [[life]] of those times but also anthropological, {{Wiki|cultural}} and historical studies.
  
Personally I am very grateful to have been born as a woman in 1953 in France because this gave me much more freedom and choices in my life. The greatest influence for the position of women in the world and on the spiritual path is the possibility of free and equal education. I was able to become a Zen nun in Korea and stay there ten years because the status and the opportunity for nuns are very good, I do not think that I would have remained otherwise.
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Personally I am very grateful to have been born as a woman in 1953 in {{Wiki|France}} because this gave me much more freedom and choices in my [[life]]. The greatest influence for the position of women in the [[world]] and on the [[spiritual path]] is the possibility of free and {{Wiki|equal}} [[education]]. I was able to become a [[Zen]] [[nun]] in [[Korea]] and stay there ten years because the {{Wiki|status}} and the opportunity for [[nuns]] are very good, I do not think that I would have remained otherwise.
  
The dharma is about becoming a full human being, awakened to and expressing totally our potential for wisdom and compassion. Being a woman or a man is only part of what makes us a human being. However to believe that because one is a woman one is spiritually inferior or disadvantaged is a trap set up by ancient patriarchal mores, still unfortunately existing today.
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The [[dharma]] is about becoming a full [[human being]], [[awakened]] to and expressing totally our potential for [[wisdom]] and [[compassion]]. Being a woman or a man is only part of what makes us a [[human being]]. However to believe that because one is a woman one is [[spiritually]] {{Wiki|inferior}} or disadvantaged is a trap set up by [[ancient]] [[patriarchal]] mores, still unfortunately [[existing]] today.
  
When I visited nuns in Thailand what impressed me most was to see that notwithstanding the difficult conditions, many great, wise and compassionate nuns have developed and arisen supported by great monks or on their own. This is the only proof needed. What the person is in themselves, their sincerity, their vision, their endurance, their commitment is what matters, not what gender they are.
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When I visited [[nuns]] in [[Thailand]] what impressed me most was to see that notwithstanding the difficult [[conditions]], many great, [[wise]] and [[compassionate]] [[nuns]] have developed and arisen supported by great [[monks]] or on their [[own]]. This is the only [[proof]] needed. What the [[person]] is in themselves, their sincerity, their [[vision]], their [[endurance]], their commitment is what matters, not what [[gender]] they are.
  
Is gender an issue on the Buddhist path? I do not think so in practical terms. Is patriarchal social, cultural, historical influence on Buddhism, Buddhist traditions, Buddhist teachers, Buddhist practitioners an issue? Very often it can be.
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Is [[gender]] an issue on the [[Buddhist path]]? I do not think so in {{Wiki|practical}} terms. Is [[patriarchal]] {{Wiki|social}}, {{Wiki|cultural}}, historical influence on [[Buddhism]], [[Buddhist traditions]], [[Buddhist teachers]], [[Buddhist practitioners]] an issue? Very often it can be.
 
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Latest revision as of 04:31, 26 February 2016

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In terms of Buddhist meditation does it make a difference if one is a man or a woman? I do not know. Time to time, I dream of finding an answer to this question by going around interviewing men and women about their meditation practice. But I am generally daunted by the complexity of the task.

It is important to acknowledge that Buddhism in itself is conditioned by the culture and social context in which it has grown. Although Buddhists sometimes proclaim transcendental values, a practitioner might transcend hatred, greed and delusion but would not necessarily transcend his or her own spiritual experiences or his/her social conditionings.

Secondly, people with little dust in their eyes who practise diligently are relatively few compared to the whole population of a country, therefore people of wisdom tend not to achieve a critical mass which would be able to change society deeply. Hence it is natural that society's own values and cultural preferences will influence Buddhism more than Buddhism will influence the society.

All this preamble is to explain why Buddhism in the past has been relatively patriarchal. Not because it is intrinsic to Buddhism but because it would have been truly amazing if it had not been because of the existing social patriarchal conditions. For this reason I am personally grateful that the Buddha let an order of nuns happen. He was already going against the tendencies of his time.

It is interesting to notice where all the Buddhist traditions are today. They all started from the same point. But 2500 years later, the positions of the nuns in the various traditions and Buddhist countries are very different. Simply put, I would grade it this way: in Korea, the nuns are 98% equal; in Taiwan, 95%; in Sri Lanka, it used to be 40% now I would say 80%; in Burma 55%; in Japan, 50%; in Tibetan Buddhism, 45%; in Thailand, 20%. I do not think this tells us so much about Buddhism as it tells us about cultural tendencies and historical facts.

Mucalinda naga125.jpg

In Korea, the full ordination is available to nuns. They have their own nunneries, their own preceptresses, their own abbesses and teachers. They are financially independent from the monks. For five hundred years, from 1400 to 1900, Buddhism was repressed by a Confucianist regime so monks had little power. Monks and nuns were very equal in their having to survive against difficult odds. In Korea, there is also a very strong tradition of female shamans. All these various conditions could go towards explaining why Korean nuns are the most equal to the monks among all Buddhist traditions.

In Taiwan, nuns have the full ordination but generally the nuns' preceptor is a monk apart from a few exceptions. There are many more nuns than monks and they generally live in the same compound. In Japan the position of the nuns is very ambiguous and there are very few. They live in small temples, they have few training places. They often have to support themselves financially by working outside teaching. Japanese monks can marry but nuns are not encouraged to do so.

Tibetan nuns can be ordained only as sramanerikas (36 precepts). As far as we know, the full ordination never reached Tibet. They are fewer than the monks and have limited opportunity to study and to meditate, though this is improving. The Korean, Taiwanese, Japanese and Tibetan nuns wear the same robes as the monks.

Namo84000.jpg

In Sri Lanka, the nuns used to take only ten precepts, were not recognised as sramanerikas and were not really considered a part of the Sangha. Now there is full ordination in Sri Lanka and they have started to receive more support and training. They dress in saffron robes. In Burma, they are called anagarikas (which is the name given to laypeople who live a life of celibacy and training). They dress either in orange or pink robes. In Thailand the nuns receive eight precepts and are not considered anything, laywomen or nuns. They wear white and often serve as servants to the monks, specially by cooking for them, though this is starting to change.

Why did the full ordination for nuns reach Sri Lanka but die out until recently? The full ordination for the monks died out several times in Sri Lanka but every time it was revived. I would suggest it was because the society did not consider the women equal in general and the women having more restrictions placed on their actions in those days, it would have been harder if not impossible for them to organise a trip to Burma which is what the monks and their supporters did.

Why is it that the full ordination reached China and Korea and survived there and why did it not reach Tibet or Thailand? Is it historical or geographical? Is it something in the culture itself? Confucianism is a very strong part of both Chinese and Korean culture. Is it because of their kind of Buddhism? But Tibetan Buddhism and Thai Buddhism could not be more different? As yet I do not have the answers to these questions. It would necessitate not only research in the religious life of those times but also anthropological, cultural and historical studies.

Personally I am very grateful to have been born as a woman in 1953 in France because this gave me much more freedom and choices in my life. The greatest influence for the position of women in the world and on the spiritual path is the possibility of free and equal education. I was able to become a Zen nun in Korea and stay there ten years because the status and the opportunity for nuns are very good, I do not think that I would have remained otherwise.

The dharma is about becoming a full human being, awakened to and expressing totally our potential for wisdom and compassion. Being a woman or a man is only part of what makes us a human being. However to believe that because one is a woman one is spiritually inferior or disadvantaged is a trap set up by ancient patriarchal mores, still unfortunately existing today.

When I visited nuns in Thailand what impressed me most was to see that notwithstanding the difficult conditions, many great, wise and compassionate nuns have developed and arisen supported by great monks or on their own. This is the only proof needed. What the person is in themselves, their sincerity, their vision, their endurance, their commitment is what matters, not what gender they are.

Is gender an issue on the Buddhist path? I do not think so in practical terms. Is patriarchal social, cultural, historical influence on Buddhism, Buddhist traditions, Buddhist teachers, Buddhist practitioners an issue? Very often it can be.

Source

www.stephenbatchelor.org